I notice that 'Notes from Kirk Session' in the current Scope (Feb 2010) say 'We have been asked by Presbytery to give our thoughts on a Consultation paper concerning samesex relationships in the ministry'. I've not seen the Consultation paper but it saddens me that it even exists. Can you imagine such a paper 'doing the rounds' in the Church of Scotland say 50 years ago? Has God changed in 50 years? Why are we even discussing it? It seems to me that the devil uses the same old tactics again and again. He still asks 'Has God indeed said?' and we sit around in groups and debate the answer to his question. The fact is that God 'has indeed said' and there is therefore no debate.







i wonder if there were similar debates when people first thought it would be a good idea for women to be ordained or for divorcees to remarry in church?
Fair point. I'm not against debates regarding issues which the bible is unclear about. Clearly some debates have resulted in changes for the good. I just think that the bible is quite clear in regard to this particular issue.